18 Nov 09, 07:35
urchin: Everything always comes back to Gali v Ian18 Nov 09, 07:35
heregoes: Yes, it is a bit like that most of the time18 Nov 09, 07:36
heregoes: Poor you with the weather18 Nov 09, 07:36
heregoes: are you hating it?18 Nov 09, 07:36
urchin: We had a few cool days so it's ok. Hotting up again today & tomorrow though, then a bit cooler again for the w/end18 Nov 09, 07:37
heregoes: We had the most amazing storm a couple of nights ago - it was spectacular18 Nov 09, 07:39
urchin: I think we've got thunder & lightning predicted over next couple days. The CFS has issues a 'catastrophic' warning but unfortunately haven't really done much in the way of telling people what that actually means for ppl on the ground.18 Nov 09, 07:39
urchin: Is it warm over in the east?18 Nov 09, 07:40
heregoes: Here is Sydney it's not hot - but west and south it's VERY hot18 Nov 09, 07:41
urchin: So.....we've done the weather report. Might just go grab my cuppa, back in a tic18 Nov 09, 07:47
heregoes: I might have a coffee soon too. Are you at work today Urch?18 Nov 09, 07:47
urchin: Heading off in around 20 mins after my cuppa, how about you?18 Nov 09, 07:48
heregoes: Yep - at work18 Nov 09, 07:48
heregoes: reluctantly18 Nov 09, 07:50
urchin: hmmmm I know how you feel. Some days, retirement looks really good to me!18 Nov 09, 07:50
urchin: So many others things I could be doing....18 Nov 09, 07:51
heregoes: I know exactly how you feel18 Nov 09, 07:52
urchin: It's not as though it's a boring job or anything, but I think my head is getting ready slowly for retirement.18 Nov 09, 07:52
urchin: couple of years at the most I reckon18 Nov 09, 07:52
heregoes: Yes, me too.18 Nov 09, 07:52
heregoes: Lucky you - I'll be working till I'm 11018 Nov 09, 07:52
urchin: EEK18 Nov 09, 07:53
urchin: Stopping paid employment doesn't mean not working anyway18 Nov 09, 07:53
urchin: SO many many things I still wanna do while I'm still 'young' (ha ha)18 Nov 09, 07:54
heregoes: Trouble is, all those things take money18 Nov 09, 07:55
urchin: Yep, round and round we go.....might as well stay at work to fund what we want to do when we're not working... how much is enough? hmmm18 Nov 09, 07:56
heregoes: I've gotta go Urch - slacking off. Must do some work - have a good day18 Nov 09, 07:57
urchin: Okey dokey, you have a nice day HG. I'm off now too, seeya18 Nov 09, 10:16
Didaktikon: RDP. Girlie, why don't you post your question as a new thread; it'd probably be better to retain such a discussion on the "permanent record" 
Ian18 Nov 09, 10:18
Didaktikon: Urchles. Galien is a VERY slow learner, but at least she seems to be doing her darndest to avoid being booted 
Perhaps we can get back to worthwhile and positive discussions now? Ian18 Nov 09, 11:03
Talmid: Urch Re fire danger, my understanding is that "catastrophic" means "blow up" conditions similar to last season's Victorian tragedy. In other words be well prepared with an accessible refuge (imo such as a dugout). If you're in the path of a fire and you don't have the above evacuate *early* with your essentials (remember the photos) 'cos your house will likely burn if there's no one to defend it.18 Nov 09, 11:08
Talmid: Urch: should be "probably" evacuate ... I'd suggest making contact with your local CFS brigade. Maybe get a family member to volunteer18 Nov 09, 11:55
Didaktikon: Urchles. If you're in an area declared "catastrophic", then you MUST evacuate immediately as the likelihood is death should you remain. Our experience of Black Saturday in Victoria this year is that there are situations which simply aren't defendable, tenable or survivable regardless of how well prepared you think you are. Ian18 Nov 09, 11:57
Glad: Urch- If everything around you is tinder dry and the weather is going to be super hot and windy, leave early. Fires create there own wind once they get going!! Now is a good time to put all valuable documents in a 'secure bank envelope', and the photos etc in the boot of your car. If the fire comes, you don't want to be running around looking for stuff. Plan the way you will leave and have an alternative route as well. We have discovered over the years in Victoria that blazes are so unpredictable. One house will burn and the one next door is left unscathed. DON'T rely on the fire brigade getting to you on time,or any emergency phone calls getting through either. Rely on your own instinct and prepare for so many things now. You can probably download from a Victorian site how to make your property as bushfire ready as you can. It is better to lose material things than people. 
18 Nov 09, 11:58
Didaktikon: RDP. I'm in the "weeds" with some soldiers at the moment, so I might not be able to respond to your questions until much later this afternoon, if not tomorrow. My laptop battery will soon give up the ghost! Ian18 Nov 09, 11:59
Didaktikon: All. The things "beeping", so I've got to go. Ciao. Ian18 Nov 09, 12:03
Glad: Urch- also remember if you leave late, so will a lot of other people and the visibility in the smoke is zilch. We had terrible crashes stranding people who perished in the fires. The Adelaide Hills are gorgeous, but they are also not the place to be during fires. I don't know if you remember Ash Wednesday and the destruction in the Hills.18 Nov 09, 12:03
Glad: Ian- Ciao18 Nov 09, 12:07
Glad: Urch- a great site for Bushfire preparedness. [link]18 Nov 09, 12:17
Talmid: Ian "catastrophic" - makes sense, but if that's the definition accepted by all states, then here in Qld the authorities have *not* been getting the message out.18 Nov 09, 12:38
Talmid: Urch ... so forget the "probably"18 Nov 09, 13:29
Didaktikon: Talmid. "Catastrophic" has been applied as the designation for "unsurvivable" in Victoria, and I believe our gradings are being adopted around the country. Ian18 Nov 09, 14:08
Talmid: Ian (Scrounged a battery?) As a former "Mexican" bushfire dude I'd have to say that seems like a good idea. I've heard about adopting the gradings, but I'm not aware of any significant publicity here about them or that catastrophic means "get out or die", despite recent statewide total fire bans. Thanks for the heads up. (I wonder whether the lack of publicity is due to the gradings not being formally adopted yet, or the advertising budget being spent shoring up the state govt ... I suppose it could just be incoompetence?)18 Nov 09, 14:16
Didaktikon: Talmid. Nope, finished the TEWT early 
WRT the fire gradings, the Victorian media (at least in my part of the state) has been spreading the message very successfully. When houses literally EXPLODE because of the "perfect storm" of fire conditions, there's very little that one can do regardless of the precautions taken or equipment available. Ergo, when we hear "catastrophic" forecast, we who consider ourselves to be intelligent Victorians pack up the car and bail. Ian18 Nov 09, 14:28
heregoes: Why did Galien put her reply to John in the healing thread?????18 Nov 09, 14:31
Didaktikon: HG. Who knows? 
Ian18 Nov 09, 15:06
brolga: Chatbox has been deemed out of bounds for her 
18 Nov 09, 15:06
Didaktikon: Ralph. Well, we can hope Ian18 Nov 09, 15:08
brolga: No, that is confirmed18 Nov 09, 15:09
Didaktikon: Ralph. Good 
Ian18 Nov 09, 15:10
brolga: Gali can still use forum as long as she is nice18 Nov 09, 15:10
Didaktikon: Ralph. Galien? Nice?! Ian18 Nov 09, 15:11
Didaktikon: Ralph. I give her a week, tops. Ian18 Nov 09, 15:11
brolga: that long? sorry18 Nov 09, 15:11
brolga: I think she will have a good try though18 Nov 09, 15:12
Didaktikon: Ralph. Galien doesn't understand "control". That, or she simply doesn't care. In my opinion she's naught but a distraction to the purpose of this forum. Ian18 Nov 09, 15:13
brolga: Too many "feelings" I think18 Nov 09, 15:14
Didaktikon: Ralph. Nope. Too little sense. Ian18 Nov 09, 15:15
brolga: Emotion can be for good and also can lead to bad things. I can't seem to fit emotion into what scripture is all about18 Nov 09, 15:18
brolga: It was emotion that lead me to "unordinate affection" in the past instead of seeing my calling as a Christian. (does that make sense?)18 Nov 09, 15:18
Didaktikon: Ralph. I can find plenty of emotion in Scripture. It's just that I can't find Galiens beliefs anywhere in there! Ian18 Nov 09, 15:18
Didaktikon: Ralph. "Inordinate"? Ian18 Nov 09, 15:19
brolga: maybe "lust" 
18 Nov 09, 15:20
Didaktikon: Ralph. Yes 
Ian18 Nov 09, 15:21
brolga: Getting off track here, I have already repented and confessed my sins. 18 Nov 09, 15:22
brolga: Ian, Have you been on bivy' ?18 Nov 09, 15:23
Didaktikon: Ralph. Nope. Only Reservists do that sort of thing. Anyway, I have to go. Ciao. Ian18 Nov 09, 15:23
brolga: cut lunch commandoes. ciao18 Nov 09, 15:29
brolga: Inordinate: 1 archaic : disorderly, unregulated%Dą : exceeding reasonable limits : immoderate18 Nov 09, 19:28
Didaktikon: All. Whew! How relieved am I that "Riddler" acknowledges that my theological responses to theological questions offer NOTHING new?! I hate to think that I could somehow "out-theologise" the historic Christian Church! Ian18 Nov 09, 21:24
urchin: Gosh thanks for all your concern guys! I wasn't actually saying that I didn't know what the gradings meant, but that, in general the majority of ppl I speak to are not aware of them. We've had to undergo training through work and be able to advise others if need be. Yes Glad, I remember Ash Wednesday VERY well indeed, I remember the day, the smoke, the smell, the burning trees - all of it. We've also had several 'grass' fires near our property over the years, two caused by lightining and one by young lads being silly with fire crackers in waist high, tinder-dry grass at the beginning of summer. We have an evac plan, have constructed a fuel break, a fire access track and done all we can to protect the buildings. But most importantly are quite ready to evac rather than stay. Houses etc can be rebuilt, lives can't! Urch18 Nov 09, 22:32
Fremde: Hi Ian, Brolga, Urch and anyone I've missed. I like your new avatar Brolga! It's a hoot. I hope Riddler has studied his new religion well, because I have put a few paleontology questions his way. I am eager to see his response! John19 Nov 09, 07:53
brolga: Hi John, I usuallt put a fishing icon for avatar when off air for a certain time, but seeing as you like it I will leave it for now Riddler?? Well it's all been told before, just hearsay and conjecture. Those evee's are so dull never producing hard evidence and most anti-Christian. you have a good day, catchya later. Ralph19 Nov 09, 09:33
Fremde: Thanks Ralph. Yep the Angler avatar is a keep. Blessings. John19 Nov 09, 12:07
heregoes: Hey there - anyone around?19 Nov 09, 13:46
never too late: hi Hero19 Nov 09, 14:29
urchin: Hi HG, although you're probably long gone by now! Urch19 Nov 09, 15:07
urchin: Hey, nice to hear from the beloved Moth again! Hope life is treating you well? Flutter in again some time. Urch19 Nov 09, 22:10
moth: I get my hand slapped if I'm online too long nowadays 
19 Nov 09, 22:53
Fremde: G'day Moth, I was wondering where you'd fluttered away to. I hope you have been well, prospering and you are happy. Blessings. John